March 20th, 2010
|harpsi_fizz||01:54 am - Rage for Others|
My little brother Jordeaux has just come out as trans on his facebook. Everyone's leaving him supportive messages and things like that. Then he gets a message from this *I must not use foul language* person that he knows. And I see red.
remember our talk about this? I can't think of you as anything other than my female roommate. I could call you Jordan, and I definitely would like to maintain our friendship! but I can't refer to you as a boy... if you can't accept that that's who you are to me, then I don't know what what else I can do. like I said I wouldn't be comfortable referring to you as a guy. I hope you still understand.
I'm a follower of Jesus and I feel like in order to follow him, I should love everyone. but I'm just used to calling you a girl, and the biology of it and everything. so yeah please just let me know how you feel now that I've told you again how I feel"
You. COWARD. You enormous, gargantuan Brobdingnagian coward not having the guts to post your little message on Facebook. If she really wanted to "stand up for Jesus" she'd post it on facebook and not be afraid. If she thinks she's right, she'll have no problem saying it in public. But no- she's a coward. And I have no respect for cowards. (And also, Dear "Elle", I would spit, but that would be a waste of perfectly good saliva)
And I'm feeling a lot of T-rage right now. I can put up with a lot, but when something like this happens to another person, especially one of my brothers...
EDIT: Oh, and she's responded again!
"I just don't think you can change your sex. and I wasn't trying to emphasize my love for Jesus. I sent my thoughts via message and not wall post because I think it's private. I'm just a private person.
A girl, born with a vagina, cannot become a male. Her biology is equipped with female reproductive organs. And changing that is a little messed up to me. It's changing anatomy. It's not adding something, or even changing something. It's taking something away. Dressing as a male is an entirely different matter.
*this does not include people born with both parts. Sorry. I just won't entertain the thought in my head."
Thinking is hard! I don't like change! Boo hoo. How does this iPod work? It's new, it must be the devil.
I'm hulking out here, fellas. Can I get a rage-rage?
((Crossposted to Trans_Rage))
ewwwwww. but who needs jesus freaks in their life anyway, 4 srs.
random: anyone know anything about the rate of multiple trans people in families/in twins? i know siblings of a gay kid have like a 50% more likelihood than the rest of the population to be gay, but what about trans? i don't think i've ever heard of trans siblings before. (not that that means anything - what do i know.) (this was not meant to question the OP or his brother's status at all, just a curiosity.)
I didn't know much about Trans!Siblings either. But there aren't many studies, I think, about transpeople. Not yet anyway.
I do know that queeriosity seems to be rampant in my family. My cousin, another cousin, and we just found out a third, 13 year old cousin of ours is a lesbian. I am very excited! ... 'Course I had to be the one to come out first. It's like "Hey... where the heck were you guys?"
LOL of course.
my SO thinks his brother may be gay or bi but will probably hang out in denial/downlow land for his entire life. he's a douche anyway so we don't really need him for our team. :P
personally, i think it's hilarious when super conservative/religious families end up with multiple gay kids. i mean, it sucks for the kids, but you know after the first one comes out the parents are thinking, "well, thank god we've still got little billy to give us all those grandkids." and then little billy comes out and... i would pay money to see their faces.
on that note i sure hope your parents are cool.
Mama still loves Jordeaux. Dada will live. And if not, IDGAF because I'm all graduated and am going to take him to live in DC with me and his darling one. *nods*
I encourage everyone to adopt GLBT youth. Or "adopt" yanno?
yeah. i am chronically/terminally ill so takin in kidlets isn't really an option for us, but when i get around to kicking the bucket my SOs will be fabulous foster daddies. :)
Last warning for you. Douche is misogynistic. Do not use it in this comm.
I'd be interested in such a trans study (I know I'm a queer trans twin - and my twin is also queer, so extra curiosity there).
I didn't know you had a twin!
I'm genderqueer and my younger sister is queer (she "officially" came out as a lesbian but has also dated two trans men, including her current boyfriend. And it's kind of weird to me the only two guys she's dated since she came out are people I'm really close with and she's met through me. But whatevs. It didn't ruin my relationship with the first friend, so I'm not really that bothered by it anymore.)
I think there is a queer-queer connection in families but not necessarily a trans-trans one. But I'm not an expert. I'm just saying there are different identities under the general umbrella of "queer," and "trans" is one of them. So I'm not surprised about the whole trans-trans sibling thing. There have been other cases of it. But I think it's not as visible because there are a smaller amount of trans people than cis queer people (or at least that's visibly so...there is much more pressure to stay in the closet if you're trans because in this age there is considerably more danger to trans people and most people just plain don't understand what it means to be trans).
That's my theory.
And OP, I've commented on the x-post about this girl's unbearable fail.
I think it's rare, but it happens. I've even heard of trans parents having trans kids, to sets of trans women mother/daughters and an trans woman who had an non-transitioning ftm parent.
That is awful! But, of course, you know what Jesus said about trans people... oh wait. "the biology of it and everything"? ... Riiiight, because I know she really rummages around through people's underwear/chromosomes/other sexual identifiers before she acquiesces to call people by their preferred pronouns and names. Also, this just reads as "Yeah, I'm too lazy to actually change my perception of you, so you'll just have to deal with that." What an ass.
*Chants* The screen did nothing, the screen did nothing, the screen did nothing, the screen did noth... *returns to work on that invention to punch people through the Internet*
UGH. WTF. RAGE ON.
I'm so sorry that your brother had to go through that.
"...if you can't accept that that's who you are to me..."
Of course. Because this is ALL ABOUT YOU, isn't it? God, it must be nice never having to think about whether or not your actions will hurt another person. You're the majority, so the minorities have to look after your feelings whether they like it or not, right? If they can't respect the fact that you're a bigot, they don't deserve to be your friend. Privilege at its finest.
I always wanna be all 'ok then d-bag, I'm going to refer to you as Fido, cos that's just WHO YOU ARE to me, and smack you with a rolled up newspaper when you don't get my slippers. BAD DOG.'
Seriously what a snotrag.
I laughed. My rage was lessened a good deal.
YAY urge to kill falling?
I am sending your brother magical rainbow internet vibes. BZZZZZ
*sporfles* Thank you, you made my day with this.
Haha. That's awesome. And so applicable to the stupidity of the former roommate's argument.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jesus say 'love thy neighbour as thyself' and 'judge not lest ye be judged'? I hate it when people use the teachings of someone who preached love and tolerance to foster bigotry and hate.
My best to your bro, and a kick to the head for Ms. Clueless Bigot.
|Date:||March 20th, 2010 11:45 am (UTC)|| |
didn't Jesus say 'love thy neighbour as thyself' and 'judge not lest ye be judged'?
Yep. Jesus never said anything about any sort of queerness; he had a lot to say about people who obey religious rules but have no compassion for others.
Also, WHAT THE FUCK "if you can't accept that's who you are to me". NO. You do not get to put your own failure of imagination, compassion, friendship and MANNERS on other people.
"Dear ex-friend: Please go away until you can respect me for who I am, and not try to put your baggage on my back."
Also "This does not include people born..." As if what she said wasn't already gross enough.
dude, you give people like this the option to come back? i don't - that ship has fucking sailed.
i would've responded to the first message with "fuck off," blocked her ass (assuming that's possible with facebook), and done my best never to think of her again.
Yeah, I don't expect said person is capable of not shifting her baggage, so it seemed like a safe bet, but you have a point.
I probably would have done similar to what you said.
"I won't entertain the thought in my head"?! Because.. what? It's such a hideous and disgusting thought that you just don't want to deal with it? Uhg.
There's the thing right there! I want to call her out on that statement. "Listen, Princess, we're going to end this right here and now. You stop using the bible as an excuse. We both know that this is all about your own fear of the unknown and your inability to understand what's going on. If you would just admit that it's your own fear, not anything the Bible says (because it doesn't say word one about being transsexual), then we'd all agree that you were thinking for yourself and we would respect your opinion."
|Date:||March 20th, 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)|| |
Ugh, I'll give some rage. Good luck to your little brother!
I don't even have words for this, so I'm just going to add a RAGE ON and proceed to do just that.
Oh well if they don't think so then it must not be possible. She should have let everyone know sooner.
|Date:||March 21st, 2010 07:37 am (UTC)|| |
I don't get it. If that's your view, why say anything at all?
I love when supposed followers make a mockery of what Jesus was really trying to teach them. [/sarcasm]